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steph
22 September 2006, 08:10
just wondering what you ladies thingk
aleighp
22 September 2006, 08:31
Which new laws are you talking about?
steph
22 September 2006, 08:35
several and the many changes that have taken place... the homeland security act i think it is that gives the govt the right to wire tap whomever whenever ( really it is for aleged terrorists), i think that that also includes the monitering of who you and everyone you talked to have called. The current right now... pres trying to change the laws concerning how pows are questioned ( we all know what goes on why does he have to bring it to public and try to get it approved), all of his laws in general since 9/11
aleighp
22 September 2006, 08:43
I personally think Bush is doing the best that he can with what Clinton left him. Clinton knew about the 9/11 threat and my understanding is didn't warn Bush. Bush is trying his hardest and if he was doing such a shitty job then why reelect him? Did you vote for him? The government isn't going to tap everyone's lines...if you are suspicious and they have you on a watch list then yes your line might get tapped. They are not going to just randomly tap someone's line. Personally if someone is deemed as a threat I'm all for the government doing anything they can to find out how big of a threat. We have several terrorists cells in america including Killeen area...we never know when they might strick next.
steph
22 September 2006, 08:59
No i didn't vote for him yes i voted. I agree that there are terrorist cells in the states, don't know if they are in killeen but noone knows where they are..... we could have terrorists living right next door and not know it. I dont agree though that bush is doing the best he can... I don't think that he is making desisions with all of the facts, and don't think that he is listening to his advisors on many things including this stuff. as far as the line tapping, yes if you are suspicious they will tap your line, but the guidelines for suspicious are very undefined just me writing what i just did could be deemed suspicious, they haven't outlined what the guidelines are which means they can do it to anyone. I think that i would prefer my privacy... terrorist cells have been in this country for many many years, and will always be here regardless of what laws are imposed.
white2white
22 September 2006, 10:02
I don't think that the poll is acurate....I'm all for the government enacting new laws that are harsher and have stricter consequences, but I don't believe that the Bush administration is doing that. There's a lot of things that we could start doing right now that would make our country a lot safer that I really think Bush is too scared to do. I think he's trying to cover that up by working in different areas and passing other laws that only half ass the job.
shawna
22 September 2006, 10:10
I voted for doing whatever makes our country safer. I think that religion and politics are 2 things that shouldn't be discussed unless totally necessary because everyone has their own opinions on both subjects and their civilized conversations usually turn ugly because people have firm beliefs. I choose to say that I stand by our president because he's ours. Our husbands have to respect and obey their Commander in Chief and we, as military wives, should do so as well. There were people that hated Clinton, and there are people that hate Bush, but it's our duty to be good Americans no matter what our beliefs on our president are.
steph
22 September 2006, 13:01
you make a very good point shawna and i do agree with you there I definetly respect the pres. and yes sometimes politics gets very messy, i figure with the ladies on this board though it won't, we have a great group of women..... and i think that we all have diff opinions on things but i definetly think that we respect each others opinions.....
white2white
22 September 2006, 13:14
I definately understand what you're saying. While I don't agree with Bush and I didn't vote for him, I still respect him as president and I do not denounce him. It makes me madder than a wet hornet when Americans say that they want to actually leave the United States because they don't like the president but still want all the rights that they get here. One of the joys we have as an American is to be able to disagree with a leader without negative consequences! I will not vote to impeach Bush, but I wouldn't vote to have in office again either (if that was an option).
My job as a military wife is to support my husband, but my husbands identity does not make my identity. I do not like or support the Iraqi War, but I do support my husband and his unit for what they're doing and their sacrifice. Ben and I are two seperate people, with two seperate views. His job requires him to maintain certain respects, but that does not mean that I have to. I choose to respect him (my husband) and support him, just as I respect Bush while I do not agree with him.
longhornhoney21
16 October 2006, 16:29
Bush was handed a CIA document the summer before 9/11 that said Osama was planning an attack on the US,,, he ignored it. its in the 9/11 commission report. The beauty of a democracy is that you dont have to support the administration. we can vote them out of office and oppose their views. respect them yes. afterall what this government does effects us more than the general public since it is wartime and where they go and what they do effects us, our life, and our children. remember too, that to the world, our President is who represents us as as Americans. So many countries despise him, america, and see US as a threat.
I think Bush really overstepped his boundaries during his 9/11 speech this year. He made it political and about the war to up his plummeting poll numbers. It made me sick because it was suppose to be a memorial speech for the victims and famililes. He made it political with his own selfish agenda. what a shame i thought.